DEC Announces Lake Ontario Fisheries Public Meetings - The Niagara Musky Association2024-03-28T21:49:41Zhttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/forum/topics/dec-announces-lake-ontario-fisheries-public-meetings?commentId=6476506%3AComment%3A66517&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSteve,Chinook Salmon eat 3 1/…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-15:6476506:Comment:664262019-11-15T22:09:28.578ZCapt. Larry D. Joneshttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/CaptLarryDJones
Steve,Chinook Salmon eat 3 1/2 times more Alwives then Lake Trout!
Steve,Chinook Salmon eat 3 1/2 times more Alwives then Lake Trout! Larry, I understand that, but…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-15:6476506:Comment:663352019-11-15T21:11:00.980ZStephen Glassichttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/StephenGlassic
<p>Larry, I understand that, but the lake trout population has more than come back. I am just saying that if the DEC is interested in lowering the lake trout population as a tool to help stabilize the alewife population, they may need to do more than what they are proposing since lake trout have been having good reproduction success, have a long lifespan and have low fishing pressure.</p>
<p>The USFW effort to bring back lake trout has been successful. Whether or not the population is the same…</p>
<p>Larry, I understand that, but the lake trout population has more than come back. I am just saying that if the DEC is interested in lowering the lake trout population as a tool to help stabilize the alewife population, they may need to do more than what they are proposing since lake trout have been having good reproduction success, have a long lifespan and have low fishing pressure.</p>
<p>The USFW effort to bring back lake trout has been successful. Whether or not the population is the same as in the past should not be a question. The lake will never be brought back to it's previous state. The important thing is to try and manage a healthy balance to avoid a major cascading crash throughout the food chain.</p>
<p>Further reduction of salmon stocking will face strong objections. Unfortunately, some things are beyond the control of fisheries managers. They have to use what tools they have. How much to use each tool is a real balancing act. But there could be a real risk of a cascading crash in the food chain anyway.<br/> <br/> <cite>Capt. Larry D. Jones said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/forum/topics/dec-announces-lake-ontario-fisheries-public-meetings?commentId=6476506%3AComment%3A66423&xg_source=activity#6476506Comment66423"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Steve,You need to remember the U.S.F.W. considers Lake Trout first ,native species of Lake Ontario.Salmon & Steelhead being non native will always get cut first to balance ecosystem!</div>
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</blockquote> Just like sturgeon and brook…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-15:6476506:Comment:665202019-11-15T13:35:12.716ZJohn Jaroszhttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/JohnJarosz
<p>Just like sturgeon and brook trout (in streams). The trend is to go back to native species, not that they're always going to be successful. Fish like salmon & steelhead bring in big $$ and they try to keep that in mind, too</p>
<p>Just like sturgeon and brook trout (in streams). The trend is to go back to native species, not that they're always going to be successful. Fish like salmon & steelhead bring in big $$ and they try to keep that in mind, too</p> Steve,You need to remember th…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-15:6476506:Comment:664232019-11-15T13:21:41.051ZCapt. Larry D. Joneshttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/CaptLarryDJones
Steve,You need to remember the U.S.F.W. considers Lake Trout first ,native species of Lake Ontario.Salmon & Steelhead being non native will always get cut first to balance ecosystem!
Steve,You need to remember the U.S.F.W. considers Lake Trout first ,native species of Lake Ontario.Salmon & Steelhead being non native will always get cut first to balance ecosystem! It just seems to me that the…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:666062019-11-14T19:25:28.083ZStephen Glassichttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/StephenGlassic
<p>It just seems to me that the earlier opener for lake trout season will not have much impact on the lake trout population. I don't think there are enough anglers, lake wide, who will target them during that time. Mostly just the Lower Niagara and the Niagara Bar.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Capt. Larry D. Jones said:…</cite></p>
<p>It just seems to me that the earlier opener for lake trout season will not have much impact on the lake trout population. I don't think there are enough anglers, lake wide, who will target them during that time. Mostly just the Lower Niagara and the Niagara Bar.<br/> <br/> <cite>Capt. Larry D. Jones said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/forum/topics/dec-announces-lake-ontario-fisheries-public-meetings?commentId=6476506%3AComment%3A66602&xg_source=activity#6476506Comment66605"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">One of the Regulation changes they are looking at is an earlier Lake Trout season!</div>
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</blockquote> One of the Regulation changes…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:666052019-11-14T19:06:35.140ZCapt. Larry D. Joneshttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/CaptLarryDJones
One of the Regulation changes they are looking at is an earlier Lake Trout season!
One of the Regulation changes they are looking at is an earlier Lake Trout season! I would think upping creel li…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:666022019-11-14T18:19:09.494ZMike Rowanhttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/MikeRowan
<p>I would think upping creel limit on kings and Lakers, maybe season length changes also, would have a better response from the fishing community and retain the potential for the large fish because most people realize the smaller ones are better eating anyway</p>
<p>I would think upping creel limit on kings and Lakers, maybe season length changes also, would have a better response from the fishing community and retain the potential for the large fish because most people realize the smaller ones are better eating anyway</p> It seems to me that they shou…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:665172019-11-14T17:29:52.798ZStephen Glassichttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/StephenGlassic
<p>It seems to me that they should strongly consider taking measures to reduce the lake trout population in the lake.</p>
<p>It seems to me that they should strongly consider taking measures to reduce the lake trout population in the lake.</p> Was also noted that lower sto…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:663282019-11-14T14:24:16.024ZCapt. Larry D. Joneshttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/CaptLarryDJones
Was also noted that lower stocking numbers of Chinooks would result in less numbers ,but bigger fish ,some in 30+ lb because they would have more Alwives to eat per fish.
Was also noted that lower stocking numbers of Chinooks would result in less numbers ,but bigger fish ,some in 30+ lb because they would have more Alwives to eat per fish. A good number of Charter Capt…tag:niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com,2019-11-14:6476506:Comment:665122019-11-14T14:21:18.160ZCapt. Larry D. Joneshttps://niagaramuskyassociation.ning.com/profile/CaptLarryDJones
A good number of Charter Captains were complaining about possible cut in Chinook stocking numbers,because of Alwive numbers on downturn. Most wanted to see the reduced stocking for East end of Ontario and stocking stay the same for West end.Steve Lapan made note that stocking for Salmon River can not be reduced,because that is the egg collection / Hatchery Source!
A good number of Charter Captains were complaining about possible cut in Chinook stocking numbers,because of Alwive numbers on downturn. Most wanted to see the reduced stocking for East end of Ontario and stocking stay the same for West end.Steve Lapan made note that stocking for Salmon River can not be reduced,because that is the egg collection / Hatchery Source!