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Comment by Riley Himmrich on September 28, 2015 at 2:27am

Stephen is that you Beckman sinking away in the background?!

Comment by Stephen Glassic on September 28, 2015 at 10:21am

Yes it is but I was able to retrieve it because air in the handle kept it afloat.

Comment by thomas reinhardt on September 28, 2015 at 1:40pm

what a beauty!!! look's like a norlunge to me? more brown than green.awesome fish!

Comment by Stephen Glassic on September 28, 2015 at 3:02pm

What is the difference between norlunge and tiger? Isn't a tiger from a female musky and a male pike and norlunge from female pike and male musky? As far as I know they only stock tigers in NYS. How can you tell the difference by looking at it? In the Niagara River either one can happen naturally as in some other waters. But in Otisco, Conesus and several other waters in NYS, they are stocked and there are no purebred muskies so neither can can happen naturally in those waters.

 Here are links to LOU discussions with two different tigers from Otisco Lake. The colors are similar (brown) but one is broken bars and the other is more like solid bars. Otisco is only stocked with tigers and has no pike or purebred muskies. Some of the fish I see from there are a combination of both (alternating between broken bars and solid bars). Some of the solid bars have a white area in middle of bar.

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/52880-otisco...

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/52732-otisco...

Below is a link to another tiger that looks drastically different, caught in the Adirondacks in a lake that is stocked with tigers. As far as I know, all the tigers stocked in NYS come from the same hatchery in central NY. I don't know what would explain the color difference except maybe diet or environment. Maybe it depends on where they get the brood stock or maybe there was a time when some were imported from another state.

http://www.lakeontariounited.com/fishing-hunting/topic/52148-adiron...

I wonder if Kevin Kapuscinski could explain the differences?


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Comment by John Jarosz on September 28, 2015 at 8:20pm

Steve...I fired off an email to Dr. Kevin with the pic & some of the thread that deals with a tiger vs. norlunge.  I will post his reply to me as soon as it comes in.

Thanks for the info & no matter what it really is, it's still one beautiful fish!

Comment by Stephen Glassic on September 28, 2015 at 9:43pm

How about that beautiful fish from the Adirondack lake. I guess they all look like that from that lake. It is somewhere north of Utica. There is a picture of another one old man posted in that same string, that he found on facebook from Utah that is also very stunning. It's like musky porn.

The only thing I could find on the DEC site about the tiger muskie hatchery is that the South Ostelic Hatchery rears the entire state's supply of tiger muskie. It does not say that they are hatched there so I wonder if they bring the fry in from somewhere else.


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Comment by John Jarosz on September 29, 2015 at 9:09am

Even in Cassadaga I know that I'll catch bluegills that are wildly different in color, depending from which they're caught.  There are a few spots that have a lot of black leaves & dead vegetation sitting on the bottom.  The 'gills out of there will be almost black.

Comment by carl schenk on September 29, 2015 at 9:48am

Checking different articles through Google all consider norlunge and tiger muskies to be different names for the same hybrid fish, regardless of male pike/female muskie or male muskie/female pike.


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Comment by John Jarosz on September 29, 2015 at 11:11am

Stephen...below (in bold) is Dr. Kevin's reply:

Hi John,

It is my understanding that "Norlunge" is an alternative common name to "Tiger Muskellunge".  Tiger Muskellunge typically result from artificial spawning of a female Muskellunge and male Northern Pike, although we see a fair number of wild-hatched Tiger Muskellunge in the Niagara River.  There can be a wide range of color forms, both within and among populations.  Hope this helps.

Kevin

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